Attorney Chan is well qualified to speak on the issues involving the dogs commonly known as "pitbulls" "APB😏 😄 Ts" (American Pitbull Terriers) or just "pitbulls" (generic classification for which there is not necessarily known genetic markers or proof that such dog is actually descended from APBT actual line, and there is no genetic link necessarily...dog might just look like one?)
Why is that?
The "why is that" --- is because attorney Chan has long studied the issues, starting in 2002, and litigated in CA state and CA Northern and Southern District Federal Courts and
Denver CO Federal court--by attorney herein,...... over issues involving the dogs and the dog breed laws which often "ban" such dogs. Also, in working with the American Canine Foundation, attorney was part of the higher case (published) in OHIO, see:
6/26/2021 toledo supreme court pitbull american canine carolyn chan - Google Search
https://www.animallaw.info/case/toledo-v-tellings-reversed-871-ne2d-1152-ohio-2007 (this is the appeal that was won..)
City of Toledo v. Tellings, 114 Ohio St. 3d 278 | Casetext Searc…
Supreme Court of Ohio ... Scott J. Saum and Carolyn Chan, urging affirmance for amicus
curiae American Canine Foundation. ... 2} Appellee, Paul Tellings, a resident of the city
of Toledo, owned three dogs identified as pit bulls. ... process because, once the trial court had
determined that the American Pit Bull terrier was not ...
https://casetext.com › ... › OH › Supr. Ct. › 2007 › August
CITY OF TOLEDO v. TELLINGS
| FindLaw
Case opinion for OH Supreme Court CITY OF TOLEDO v. ... Scott J. Saum and Carolyn Chan,
urging affirmance for amicus curiae American Canine Foundation. ... once the trial court had
determined that the American Pit Bull terrier was not ...
https://caselaw.findlaw.com › oh-supreme-court
BSL and the ACF History of... - The Anti Breedism Alliance ...
The United Kennel Club (UKC) recognizes the American Pit Bull Terrier and the ... Moreover, to
qualify as a member of a recognized breed, the dog must be ... The Supreme Court of Iowa
reached a similar result, rejecting as ... By Scott J.Saum and Carolyn Chan ... (
Tellings v Toledo )
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Attorney herein has worked on these issues in Northern District Federal Court San Francisco, and although we did not win on the issue of pitbull dogs being treated disparately in 2007 in DENVER Federal Court----(years ago),many
MANY attorneys have attempted to change the law in Denver banning pitbulls since 2008 BUT-- none of them EVER succeeded..... and just for the record, attorney herein believes that the 2013 ordianance in the City of San Diego violates the Cartright Act of CA, wherein all of the claimed non profits and humane groups and pounds can sell any animal they want while bona fide sellers of same cannot sell unless they actually obtain them from the aforementioned groups????
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Not until January 2021, did the law in Denver CO finally get changed, not via litigation--which had been futile since 2007--but by gaining social media and dog owners to put pressure on Denver local government---they finally got the government to get rid of the dog ban !!! Everyone these days realizes that the pitbull is one of the most widely liked breed type (despite the haters...) See https://www.k9ofmine.com/pit-bull-types-bully-breeds/ for a decent explanation of the breed types....I would say that this is pretty much on point. Many people "adopt" dogs they know nothing about. If one is NOT ve-e-e-ry knowledgeable about canines, has little to no experience with dogs, and has children who have no correct knowledge (behavorial and otherwise) of dogs-- I would NEVER recommend obtaining ANY dog type for kids, unless they were already taught about dogs and dog safety!!
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Even so, if the parent has little to no knowledge of dog safety, that parent has no business in even buying or adopting a dog until that parent has learned dog safety him/herself FIRST.
The leading cause of injuries by dogs is sually negligence of the owner, or negligence of the person who allows a dog to harm a person. For example, in San Diego, a very foolish Humane Society adopted out a HUGE 60+ pound terrier breed, to a couple with a YOUNG infant-child. These people had, obviously, NO knowledge of dogs whatsoever, and should NEVER have been allowed to adopt such a dog. the fact that the parents even considered brining in an UNKNOWN adult dog to their house while they had a very young bab or child was just plain stupid, and the Humane Society should NEVER have even allowed them to take the dog. Nevertheless, the Humane Society let them take the dog and what happens soon afterward? The dumb parents let the DOG sleep in bed with them and the BABY and the dog bit the baby's head and killed it in the bed??!!@!!
This was completely AVOIDABLE people----this is pure negligence on the parents' part, and pure stupidity on the Humane Society--who should have been sued by the parents for allowing such an "adoption!"....Tradgedies like this should never, never, never happen. They end up happening usually due to both stupidity, lack of any common sense, and just being idiotic.
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...Many "pitbull" dogs are actually not APBT but are mixed down (mongrels) which can cause issues. The reason for this is due to fact that the actual APBT dogs were bred by using a bulldog and small terrier dog; they were used for dog fighting wagering, and not for killing. The original size was about 35lbs, NOT 70lbs. People began later to mix molosser type canines with APBT and in part, this has caused harm to the dogs, since one cannot use cross overs from unknown lines and expect to produce a line of dogs which have certain characteristics.
https://youtu.be/W6Ey74D8bk4 (This link to a utube video by APBT dog owner...)
Attorney has worked with well known canine experts and has studied the subject for many years. in fact, our canine expert was actually used in the Landmark case of U.S. v Stevens,
LII Supreme Court
UNITED STATES v. STEVENS ( No. 08-769 )
533 F. 3d 218, affirmed.
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NOTE: Where it is feasible, a syllabus (headnote) will be released, as is being done in connection with this case, at the time the opinion is issued.The syllabus constitutes no part of the opinion of the Court but has been prepared by the Reporter of Decisions for the convenience of the reader.See United States v. Detroit Timber & Lumber Co., 200 U. S. 321 .
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
UNITED STATES v . STEVENS
Certiorari to the united states court of appeals for the third circuit
No. 08–769. Argued October 6, 2009—Decided April 20, 2010
Congress enacted 18 U. S. C. §48 to criminalize the commercial creation, sale, or possession of certain depictions of animal cruelty. The statute addresses only portrayals of harmful acts, not the underlying conduct. It applies to any visual or auditory depiction “in which a living animal is intentionally maimed, mutilated, tortured, wounded, or killed,” if that conduct violates federal or state law where “the creation, sale, or possession takes place,” §48(c)(1). Another clause exempts depictions with “serious religious, political, scientific, educational, journalistic, historical, or artistic value.” §48(b).
The legislative background of §48 focused primarily on “crush videos,” which feature the torture and killing of helpless animals and are said to appeal to persons with a specific sexual fetish. Respondent Stevens was indicted under §48 for selling videos depicting dogfighting. He moved to dismiss, arguing that §48 is facially invalid under the First Amendment . The District Court denied his motion, and Stevens was convicted. The Third Circuit vacated the conviction and declared §48 facially unconstitutional as a content-based regulation of protected speech.
Held: Section §48 is substantially overbroad, and therefore invalid under the First Amendment . Pp. 5–20.
What this means, is that animal activists got HSUS to try and convict the guy who was selling historical videos of dogs, not that different from any movie which shows beating of slaves, killing of Indians, torture of ethic people, or barbaric actual events from the past?
BUT the United States Supreme Court found that the animal activist statute (on snuff films using animals) was not only poorly written, it was illegal in the sense that the Court found a ton of things wrong with it (by using the parameters of constitutional law)...THUS- the District court below received direct testimony from OUR expert who lives in Washington. The rest is HISTORY--and the law had to be stricken and re-written properly. This was just another tactic by activists trying to smear legally operated businesses!!
Attorney recommends that people interested in obtaining the "right" type of dog check out the Dog encyclopedia book, or the book on 150 common dog breeds, BEFORE even attempting to buy a dog or even a "rescue" dog. MOST dog rescues do NOT know the actual history of many of their dogs, the lineage or even anything about the dogs.
In SOME cases they may have data from the pound (and that is usually sketchy, but a temperament test was likely done at the pound..) I cannot tell you how many people with absolutely NO canine knowledge at all, will just buy any canine without researching a thing. AS A HORRIBLE EXAMPLE--A HUMANE SOCIETY IN SAN DIEGO SOLD A DOG TO A COUPLE THAT HAD A NEW BABY. THEY SOLD THEM A HUGE DOG, RESCUED PURPORTEDLY...no humane society should EVER, EVER sell or adopt out ANY large breed dog, to parents of a new baby in household??
It's common sense so obviously this humane group did not do its job correctly.
Especially when the parents know nothing about dogs, or how dogs act, and especially a rehomed large dog which appeared to be part bully dog or in that family of canines? ANY rescue or humane group should know better than to give such an animal to a family with a newborn baby. AS it happened--these dumb parents put this huge dog in BED with them AND with the new baby?? Utterly stupid, stupid, stupid. So what happens? The DOG ended up killing the baby right there in the BED???
All of this could have been avoided by: (1) Never adopt out any large breed dog to new owners who probably had no clue about dogs at all. (2) Never adopt out any unknown pound dog to owners who have no experience with dogs.(3) Make new owners pass a test (written) re dog ownership (4) Ask simple questions of would-be-new-owners as to safety, dog safety, and child safety? There is no other way to know unless this is done in person !!!!!
That is sheer stupidity and all children should know dog safety BEFORE obtaining any dog!!! Most children are bitten on the face due to lack of supervision, parents who are idiots, and parents who have no idea of what it takes to own a dog. No child who lacks dog safety training should have a dog, simply because it's dangerous. Many schools offer dog-child safety training. If you cannot locate this help, contact me and I will find the help for you.
The encyclopedia book is huge and fairly expensive but will last a lifetime. You should also research online but be careful what sources you are believing. There is a lot of untrue data out there. And if you are inclined to buy a dog off the internet and have it shipped, you should do much research first. It is difficult to return dogs that are shipped from breeders you know nothing about. Here are examples of what you can learn by reading-- (Mastiff)--
For APBT Dogs.....
SEE https://petdefense.wordpress.com/
Attorney is likely one of the few attorneys outside of San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego, that has first hand knowledge and data on canine issues involving certain breeds, restrictions in the sales of dogs, and the abuses by certain non profits claiming to be "rescues." Non profits do not pay taxes. Yet some BUY animals including dogs, from auctions and then resell them, claiming they are rescued? For example, a claimed rescue group paid over $7k (yes, seven thousand) for one dog that was pregnant, then they SOLD 3 of the pups for over $4,000 EACH. Importing alleged "rescue"dogs has resulted in new strains of virulent disease not seen in the USA prior.
Let's get real people---if you are selling dogs, fine. But don't claim that doing it under a 501(c)(3) makes you a "rescue." It in fact, does the opposite.
And an update on one of the biggest dog related cases in the state, is continuing in Sacto Federal Court where the owners are suing Placer County/others, because the non profit "humane group" acting as the animal control apparently, has been accused of illegal action. Attorney herein already knows what happened because attorney worked on the case for a year previously, before any lawsuit was filed.
Attorney herein believes the case is a civil rights case, and when coupled with PC597.1, proves that the PC597.1 code was applied improperly,*** resulting in great harm.
https://casetext.com/case/dahlin-v-frieborn-1
The case may have been dismissed but if it was, crucial data was not used and instead the case may only have used a government claim and failed to single out a non governmental entity, even if they worked together.
[In constitutional law as to statues, one either uses the strict wording, or "as applied" to the case; in this case, they used the strict wording to create knowing harm and blatantly ignored the "as applied" which was very very obvious.] Placer County is no stranger to these type of cases. Years ago in a horse case, the owner found her horse was given away to a government employee without due process. If we get rid of due process, then this obviously means our government is way way off base.
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- California Court of Appeals, 4th District: "Our role in construing a statute is to ascertain the intent of the Legislature so as to effectuate the purpose of the law. (People v. Jefferson (1999) 21 Cal.4th 86, 94 [86 Cal.Rptr.2d 893, 980 P.2d 441].) Because the statutory language is generally the most reliable indicator of that intent, we look first at the words themselves, giving them their usual and ordinary meaning. (People v. Lawrence (2000) 24 Cal.4th 219, 230 [99 Cal.Rptr.2d 570, 6 P.3d 228].)
- We do not, however, consider the statutory language in isolation, but rather examine the entire substance of the statute in order to determine the scope and purpose of the provision, construing its words in context and harmonizing its various parts. (People v. Acosta (2002) 29 Cal.4th 105, 112 [124 Cal.Rptr.2d 435, 52 P.3d 624].)" Alford v. Superior Court(People) (2003) 29 Cal.4th 1033, 1040
